http://www.blogtalkradio.com/truthertalk/2013/10/23/truther-talk-episode-51-hippi-hate
In Truther Talk Episode 51: Hippie Hate.. Or attack of the fake liberals.. April and Virstyne talk about the social networking phenomena of picking fights for any number of reasons big, medium and small.. How people address you in a manner differently than they would to your face.. Does social networking, texting and technology remove one's empathy?
In the next segment, while Virstyne is off on her learjet to go Llama wrangling.. April invites back to the show, Gnostic Media's Jan Irvin to discuss this phenomena and some personal attacks he's been receiving from the Hippie Haters. Tune in to find out the meaning of 'Hippie Hate' in all it's irony, hypocrisy and down right kookie nature of those who claim spiritual enlightenment, peace and love while attacking, stalking and trying to bring down anyone who expresses a contrary opinion to their own.
To check out Jan's research, books, podcasts and videos go to his website: https://www.gnosticmedia.com/
In the final segment Virstyne returns to talk about the Hippie haters under the umbrella of the fake liberals and the number of ways in which we've been on the receiving end of their wrath through social networking or otherwise.
You won't want to miss this lively show as they call out the fake liberals, phony new agers, false feminists, hippie haters and more.
Until next time..
Peace, truth & love (and we mean it),
Truther Talk, http://truthertalk.com/
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Jan, with regards to your statement that the Trivium is presented out of order. This is the definition in Oxford Dictionaries ‘The world’s most trusted dictionaries.’ They define it out of its functional order:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/trivium?q=trivium
Definition of trivium in English
trivium
Syllabification: (triv·i·um)
Pronunciation: /ˈtrivēəm/
noun
historical
an introductory curriculum at a medieval university involving the study of grammar, rhetoric, and logic. Compare with quadrivium.
Origin:
early 19th century: from Latin, literally ‘place where three roads meet’, from tri- ‘three’ + via ‘road’
This supports your statement the trivium is often presented in a way that breaks its functionality.
Be well.
Thank you. Most dictionaries, books, historical write ups, etc, that I have found all present it out of functional order.
Hi Jan, I recently came across an interesting paragraph from Robert Anton Wilson in Cosmic Trigger (1977):
“It is scarcely coincidental that mainstream “literary” intellectuals – the heirs of the Platonic-aristocratic tradition that a gentleman never uses his hands, monkeys with tools or learns a manual craft – despise both science fiction and the dope-culture. NOR IS IT COINCIDENTAL that the Whole Earth Catalogs – created by Stewart Brand, a graduate of Ken Kesey’s Merry Pranksters – are the New Testament of the rural dropout culture, each issue bulging with eco-technological information about all the manual, dextrous, gadgety know-how that Plato and his heirs consider fit ONLY FOR SLAVES.”
This from a book that extols the virtues of Tim Leary and Aldous Huxley. Thanks to your work, this takes on whole new levels of meaning I would have never had any notion of!
Frank,
If you have the interest, I’d be curious to hear you expand on ‘the new levels of meaning’, that Jan’s work provides, regarding this paragraph.
Stewart Brand
Just look at this resume (which he has altered in recent years to make it less obvious)
– son of an ad exec
– grad of New England prep school
– Stanford University where he embraced population control
– US Army – paratrooper
– transferred to the Pentagon to be a “photographer”
– left the Army and traveled with no visible means of support visiting college campuses and Indian reservations
– specialized in light and sound shows
– when CIA busted for funding artists and scholars covertly he comes off the road
– attaches himself to the Merry Pranksters
– takes over the Merry Pranksters when Kesey is jailed
– organizes the Trips Festival – first large scale public LSD doping in history (light and sound show)
– police leave him alone, media hails him as a visionary
– gets a job at the Stanford Research Institute
– starts the Whole Earth catalog where he extols the virtues of psychedelics, sinsemilla, loony “back to the land” schemes and promotes Gregory Bateson, Carlos Castaneda and Terrence McKenna etc.
– spends a year at MIT’s Media Lab with founder Nicholas Negroponte brother of John Negroponte, US liason to death squads in El Salvador and Iraq
– uses the book he wrote about the experience to whitewash Ithiel de Sola Pool of MIT’s Center for International Studies which routinely did “studies” on countries a few years before they had coups
– founds The Well, the first well organized online community. Uses it to bring all writers on society and technology under one roof
– starts the Global Business Network with long time collaborator Peter Schwartz, who started his professional career (after a stint in Africa for the Peace Corps) in the intelligence office of Shell Oil
– co-founds Wired which stripped all progressive politics out of the burgeoning tech explosion and advocated “libertarian philosophy”
(i.e tog eat dog, survival of the richest)
– lauds and promotes John Rendon, top pro-war PR operative in the US
Get it?
Sorry Negroponte was the point man in Honduras, not El Salvador.
More on Brand’s rhetorical style: lie and then lie some more – on behalf energy companies and their affiliates.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/nov/05/stewart-brand-pesticide
Hello Jan,
Could you please clarify your use of “the map is not the territory” at 48’00”?
Also, when referring to quantum physicists just before that, are you generalizing that some if not most subscribe to string theory? And, are you limiting your definition of physicists to academia or to anyone who can appreciate and espouse the basics tenants of quantum theory without disposing of them as readily as you seem to do?
Thanks,
Everett
1) study the trivium. It’s discussed there.
2) IF they’re a quantum physicist, they’re a quantum physicist. Would they believe in string theory if they weren’t quantum physicists? I didn’t say “physicists” – you’re using the lesser to the greater fallacy and changing what I said. I’m not saying all physicists. I said “quantum physicists”. I’m limiting it to the specific words I already used.
3) ” or to anyone who can appreciate and espouse the basics tenants of quantum theory without disposing of them as readily as you seem to do?”
please study the material that I’ve referred to many hundreds of times by David Harriman and don’t take my words out of context, change what they say or how they were said. What’s to appreciate if QP is a fraud? You want to appreciate and espouse a lie? Why? That’s ridiculous. I’ve provided many hours of research on exactly why Quantum Physicists are debating the fallacies and contradictions in their own little heads. Do not omit, distort, et al, my words and citations. Please study these specific citations that I’ve provided over and over rather than ignoring them and using circular logic back to “appreciate and espouse and disposing them as “readily as I seem to” all the while ignoring and omitting all of the specific, detailed research we’ve provided as to why.
Jan,
Out of curiosity, do you believe that David Harriman thinks that Quantum Mechanics is a fraud? I can’t quite tell, though it seems that you do. Please don’t ask me to listen to your interviews with him or listen to the lengthy lecture he gave, as I already have. I’m curious to hear what your interpretation of his beliefs are?
Thanks.
For what it’s worth, David Harriman does not believe Quantum Mechanics is a fraudulent science and using ad hominems (‘own little heads’) to describe Quantum Physicists doesn’t make it so. In my opinion, it would be wise to stop strapping your conclusions as to whether Quantum Mechanics is a ‘fraud’, or not, to what David Harriman says about it because, as I’ve indicated, he doesn’t subscribe to that point of view.
And obviously, if you don’t believe that Quantum Mechanics is a ‘fraud’, disregard and or delete my posts.
my understanding of the map not equating to the territory is something like, you can study the 2D info all day long, but it needs to be experienced and exercised in reality to be true.
Sometimes when we talk we act as tho we’ve been there, but have not.
i could be wrong.
Howdy, Olivier here from Montreal, Canada.
First of all, kudos for the great work, really enjoying your work. It has opened my eyes on McKenna and the MK ultra stuff, mind blowing.
Jan, have you ever looked at David Wilcock stuff ? oh man…..if not look him up on youtube, total fraud.
Thanks, I have.
IMHO you are correct on your verbiage.
jan, have you ever considered trying to get wilCOCK and or pinchbeck on the show? it would be rather interesting to hear what they have to say with you interviewing them and cutting straight though their total and utter bilge. i would imagine they’d decline though.
oh the capitals aren’t a typo. 😉
They would never come on. But why waste people’s time? How would they benefit? You see, any press is good press, and I’d rather give them no press.
you are of course correct that they wouldn’t even contemplate coming on your show, and i agree about your point about no press. however i think it could help some people who are caught up in their nonsense if you interviewed them and refuted point by point most of their garbage and exposed their frauds. (although if those ‘people’ are already spellbound by those two monkeys then i doubt they’d have the logic to process your grammar – and therefore would remain entranced).
the fantasy is still a compelling show in my head jan!
cheers.