Aired June 21-22, 2016. Joe Atwill and Jan Irvin discuss the Whore of Babylon and the Scarlet Woman as Agent / spy. This is the first attempt to begin to understand this complex subject.
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I have to say your research is excellent and compelling. A few years ago I got way into Terrence McKenna. After awhile I thought I needed to get a balanced perspective on his claims and ideas. So I did a search for critics of McKenna. That’s when I found Jan embroiled in a flame war on some message boards. After reading the arguments I realized Jan was the only one sticking to facts an siting his sources. Also he was not engaging in any name calling or ad hominem attacks even toward the people who were attacking him. So I followed up on his research. Talk about a rabbit hole. Jan and Joe and Hans research and information is even more interesting and mind bending than the bullshit espoused in the parking lot of a Grateful Dead concert. I too was/am on the periphery of the psychedelic scene. I fell victim to the psychedelic dragnet that was the Grateful Dead in the late 80’s and early 90’s. I still exist partially in that world. I have many friends involved in the scene. I can tell you first hand there were some strange operations afoot at the Fare The Well concerts last year. Also the band continues on with John Mayer as lead guitarist. In an article last week in Rolling Stone Mayer calls his introduction to the Dead as a “cultural assignment”. I thought what a strange way to describe getting into the band. Most people get introduced to the Dead by getting high with their older brother and listening to Aoxoamoxoa. Not as a 35 year old studying a “cultural assignment”. I suppose the acid test continues. And the bus rolls on. Ironically I haven’t disavowed the Dead, scene, or music. But I am definitely seeing the whole thing from a much wider perspective. Keep up the good work. You guys are really laying it on the line. You are the vanguard of this critical information. Thank you. I apologize for this post not having much to do with the Whore of Babylon. But I wanted to express my appreciation. And I guess it all falls under the same mk ultra umbrella. Cheers!
as always great stuff,
another name is ‘the goddess’ movement is here, I dated a women who took me to there meeting, I had to Pay $100 for the after noon and was with a group of 12 couples who Past the women around and had them sit on your lap and look in to each others eyes, I didn’t want to do that so my girl friend was with me the whole time and said she had never did that before. the whole thing was about men not having orgasm’s and women have as many as they can have to see god. the church was run by women near santa rosa ca. I was to call my girl friend [who I wanted to marry but she said no.] goddess.
here more on subject
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goddess_movement
With Hank Harrison, I’m sure you know that she’s the father of Courtney Love, and lost partial custody because he allegedly was giving her ‘magic pills’ or LSD. There’s also a link with her to the Presidio, and the MK program there, but I don’t have a link at the moment. She popularized baby doll grunge fashion (shades of pedophiia) heroin chic and had a song called doll parts, like the fragmentation of the self with MK.
To me, she’s a possible whore of babylon, and is linked to several deaths besides Kurt Cobain, like the bassist from Hole Kristen Pfaff who died under mysterious circumstances also. Then there are all those copy cat suicides – talk about a culture poisoner. There’s the documentary about her Soaked in Bleach. And in a strange twist, last year she said the CIA killed Cobain, not her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcu3qb6J_5c
You likely know that Hank Harrison is Courtney Love’s father, and from your description, she’s a likely candidate for Whore of Babylon. A culture polluter both in that area (Seattle), with the rise of heroin chic, and the baby doll grunge look, with shades of pedophilia. Her early life was in SF, and it’s alleged her father gave her ‘magic pills’ (LSD) and lost custody that way. I also saw a link with her to the Presidio, where the MK happened under Aquino.
The documentary Soaked in Bleach makes the case that she’s a suspect in Cobain’s death, and there are the copycat deaths and the death of the Hole bassist Kristen Pfaff. She’s left a wake of destruction, and last year said the CIA was to blame for Cobain’s death. Seems there’s a nexus there of intel activity, social programming and music for destructive ends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8WD6sROXqo
I thought Miley Cyrus, with the tongue hanging out at every opportunity, had something to do with the Hindu goddess Kali. Just look up Miley Kali under images.
Likewise, there is some reference to the 10 horned beast of the whore of Babylon representing the 10 regions the UN wants to divide the nations into.
One of the most influential of them, Blavatsky.
Blavatsky’s Uncle, General Fadeyev, gets sent to Ismail (capital of Egypt) to train the Egyptian Army, whilst her cousin Sergei Witte becomes involved with the Odessa branch of the Slavic Philanthropist Society, (same as the Slavic Benevolent Society) and writes propaganda articles under pen names.
The following year (1872) Blavatsky herself gets involved, and wrote to Melikov offering her services as an intelligence agent.
– Madame Blavatsky offered her services as an agent to “my native land” and candidly explained her technique of exploiting people’s spiritualist beliefs to uncover their secret thoughts.
She went on to state: “I have played every role, I am able to represent myself as any person you may wish.”
– Tsarist Russian intelligence documents first revealed publicly in 1993,
referenced in the book Tournament of Shadows
Great find!
Maybe instead of calling it The Whore *of* Babylon it should be called The Whore *from* Babylon. like the Man Form UNCLE. Luckily I don’t have to worry about such things.