UnSpun 035 – “LSD & MDMA: Micro Dosing and “Teners” Explained”

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Aired August 09-10, 2016. Joe Atwill and Jan Irvin discuss the new wave of "micro dosing" and "teners" popularized by Dr. James Fadiman, et al. What's the real agenda behind micro dosing?

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  1. loren hough
    August 18, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    psychotropic drugs = school shootings = soldiers killing them selves.
    there is a big difference from Pharmaceutical LSD and
    So called street Lsd unless checked out in lab is a unknown. Jan could have got sick from the street ?Lsd. remember the bad acid at Woodstock??
    Acid was 1st Pushed by Richard albert in the movie Mondo Hollywood [ram das] in the 60s for enhancing sex, not seeing god.

  2. August 21, 2016 at 11:33 pm

    There’s someone going around spreading disinfo that Dorothy Fadiman was not a Merry Prankster. Here is her page on linked in where it clearly states she was a Merry Prankster from 1961-1963.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dorothy-fadiman-0475ba12

    Stanford University
    Masters, Speech Therapy
    1961 – 1963

    Activities and Societies: CORE Congress of Racial Equality, Merry Pranksters

  3. mark smith
    August 25, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    Regarding Ted K. I think what he’s saying.. Is that for someone who is extremely intelligent, and who would most likely actually want to see true retribution occur, would (against better options) choose means of retribution, that couldn’t have better served the objectives of the cabal, any more than his alledged methods ended up serving.. Why would he use methods that could be so easily and spectacularly twisted into serving the very people, he was most desirious of seeing experience the consequences of justice.. Why would he choose, means that seem to be about well thought out as a highschool football player hitting the other player right in front of the ref, regardless of whether he had just been violated himself or not.. In otherwords, I would expect a poorly thought out and what would amount to a self destructive and reactionary behavior from a dumb, angry football player.. But I wouldn’t expect that low functioning kind of a response from one who was as intelligent and well educated as Ted K.. Whats my assessement? I think, Joseph as very valid point… And to the other side, I would postulate this question, why wouldn’t the CIA engage in those bombings themselves, while using the pretense of his identity, if it could and would accomplish a predetermined objective… Of course they would.. Thats right down their ally… I think the doubt that Joseph expressed is quite reasonable, and when considered in the context of evrerything else we know about the CIA, and their tactics… Is most like the correct position… Having doubt is not ALWAY’S necessary, however, when the data stream begins to show anomlous deviations or inherrent contradiction, or dyanmics that appear to be heading in that direction.. Then at that point, doubt and reinvestigation are appropriate and should not be dismissed, but to the contrary, MUST be reconsidered… That is the correct and the most legitimate approach… But, then again, this should remind us of just how tricky and tenuous this research really is.. When your breaking new ground, NEVER take assumptions as fact, or what appears to be the case, as the case… It may not be so, at least in this case… Its a jigsaw puzzle, that has never been seen or solved before.. So before, its over were all going to make some mistakes, even if were trying our very best… Thats called high altitude learning. Not everyone can handle it, and even the best, got there by making their share of mistakes….. So did, Ted actually send those bombs? maybe, but the odds are actually that he most likely did not… After all, as Joseph pointed, why would someone as smart as that do something as stupid as that? . Good work guys… You know, sometimes situations require that someone argue and even actually believe the position of the devils advocate before, enough scrutiny to uncover the unlikely is applied, that by either side….

    • August 26, 2016 at 8:30 am

      Hopefully Dr. K can answer for himself…

      • Damian A
        August 27, 2016 at 2:28 pm

        If I were Dr.K I would certainly give you the interview above all others, I just hope your voice reaches him. It’s kind of crazy how this has popped up in the news cycle again especially in an election year, though I am only just now seeing the stuff about him wanting to “break his silence”. The vast majority of individuals my age (25) truly have no idea who Dr. K is let alone are willing to spend the few dozen brain cells that haven’t been decayed by election nonsense to a re-dredging of the unibomber media coverage that seems to be in the works. After reading that presented narrative to prime the current generation with the “official story” the daily mail (that insipid rag) posted up about Ted wanting to break his science I got the distinct impression that they really wanted to get on top of it and muddy the waters in advance of any potential exposure (either in the hoax for agency cover, or the targeted individual op direction).

    • Damian A
      September 4, 2016 at 4:56 am

      I’m sure you’ve perused the Stones article High times references in the second sentence (http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/how-lsd-microdosing-became-the-hot-new-business-trip-20151120), I’d like to echo something they claim Fadiman himself said referring to micro dosing [“It’s an extremely healthy alternative to Adderall,”]. I looked for about 30 mins to find a citable statistic on the % of adderall prescriptions that are going to children to no avail, but I think we all know it’s a big number. So is that another “teenage allowance” by The Rolling Stone for Fadiman’s micro dosing? Another name from that RS article is Rick Doblin “head” of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, first I’ve heard of such an organization. As for the High Times article, the “Day infinity” section was pretty telling in it’s mention of Hofmann and the attribution of a long and fulfilled life to “micro dosing”. I cracked up out loud at the “Know thyself” line as it really puts a line under your “What’s in a name” work, as if we would ever have to suffer such absurd gonzo “journalism” from the hacks at High Times if the suggestion was to micro-dose something referred to as “psychotomimetic” in order to improve ” intelligence, creativity, out-of-the box thinking, knowledge of one’s self, and one’s very physical lifespan”.

  4. Pamela Seley
    September 17, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    Thanks for explaining microdosing and teners. I had no idea this is going on in our society, but I’m not traveling in these circles to know. I hope educated young people will consider the long-term effects on their health from microdosing LSD.

    Jan, thanks for sharing your direct experience with Dr. Fadiman. It’s never good when someone gets sick, but obviously was an indication to you that the experiment was not good for you.

    As for Ted, I don’t think he ever got to tell his side of the story, and I’m sure the ominous they want to keep it that way. From what I know about gang stalking, and mind controllers, they have an intention. It is: (1) drive the person insane, (2) provoke them so there’s reason to put them in jail, or get them to do something illegal, (3) destroy their life and credibility so they’re destitute, (4) make them terminally or chronically ill, and (5) suicide.

    If it’s true T was tortured by operatives at HU, which sounds likely he might have been, I hope the facts are exposed. I wonder if a prerequisite of getting in to some of these ivy league schools is a certain level of psychopathy must show up on their psych grey scale. Some of the ugliest and fake people I’ve known in life went to HU and other ivy league schools. Just my observation. I’m sure my assessment doesn’t apply to everyone….

    Great work exposing the creeps of the world.

  5. Pamela Seley
    September 17, 2016 at 7:42 pm

    It’s been said people don’t go to Harvard to get a job they go there to create something. Like what exactly? Financial ponzi schemes to scam those who should know better, non-profits that don’t do anything but are mere fee collectors, or how to game government agencies, such as HUD, to pocket tax payer money, is more like it. It seems to me the overarching training at HU is how to blame other people for your own crimes. Harvard disgusts me as well as those involved in MKULTRA, mind control crimes against humanity–they all have their day coming to them. It’s just a matter of time.

    Thankfully we have Jan, Joe and company to expose the fraud and what Joe terms “malfeasance against the citizen.” So appropriate.

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