Peace Revolution 047: Slavery is Death / Practical Applications of Irrationality

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Notes, References, and Links for further study:

  1. Tragedy and Hope dot com (commercial-free educational media)
  2. Invitation to the Tragedy and Hope online community
  3. Log in page for the Tragedy and Hope online community
  4. Peace Revolution primary site (2009-2012)
  5. Peace Revolution backup stream(2006-2012)
    1. Includes the 9/11 Synchronicity Podcast (predecessor to Peace Revolution)
    2. You can USE THE BACKUP STREAM when podOmatic indicates this podcast is “over-bandwidth”.
  6. Francisco D’Anconia’s money speech from Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged”
  7. Alex Jones “The NDAA is a Hoax, You Can’t Legalize Tyranny
    1. www.Infowars.com / www.PrisonPlanet.tv
  8. “They Thought They Were Free” by Milton Mayer, read by Dave Emory
    1. See also: the She Who Remembers Archives@ Gnostic Media
      1. http://www.gnosticmedia.com/store/ (bottom of page)
  9. “The Spirit of 43” Pay Your Income Tax/ 1943 Disney Propaganda (on YouTube)
    1. The single-most effective means to convince hard-working Americans to fund their own wage slavery.
  10. The Gulag Archipelago, 1918-1956: An Experiment in Literary Investigation (Volume One)” by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
    1. The Gulag Archipelago is Solzhenitsyn’s attempt to compile a literary-historical record of the vast system of prisons and labor camps that came into being shortly after the Bolsheviks seized power in Russia in 1917 and that underwent an enormous expansion during the rule of Stalin from 1924 to 1953. Various sections of the three volumes describe the arrest, interrogation, conviction, transportation, and imprisonment of the Gulag’s victims by Soviet authorities over four decades. The work mingles historical exposition and Solzhenitsyn’s own autobiographical accounts with the voluminous personal testimony of other inmates that he collected and committed to memory during his imprisonment. Upon publication of the first volume of The Gulag Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn was immediately attacked in the Soviet press. Despite the intense interest in his fate that was shown in the West, he was arrested and charged with treason on February 12, 1974, and was exiled from the Soviet Union the following day.
  11. Proof (that) Obama will NOT Veto the NDAA 1031 Bill that can Indefinitely Detain U.S. Citizens” (on YouTube)

Peace Revolution partner podcasts:

Corbett Report dot com

Media Monarchy dot com

Gnostic Media Podcast

School Sucks Project Podcast

Remedy Radio Podcast

Meria dot net

Other productions by members of the T&H network:

The Ultimate History Lesson: A Weekend with John Taylor Gatto (2012) a journey into the dark heart of public schooling, revealing how America became incoherent, one student at a time.

Navigating Netflix (2011) our video series wherein we conduct a critical analysis of films you might have missed; Navigating Netflix is available for free on YouTube.

“Memories of a Political Prisoner”, an interview with Professor Chengiah Ragaven, graduate of Oxford, Cambridge, and Sussex; AFTER he was a political prisoner, who was exiled from South Africa, during Apartheid. (2011)

What You’ve Been Missing! (2011) is our video series focusing in on the history of corruption in our public education system.

Top Documentary Films dot com: Hijacking Humanity by Paul Verge (2006)

Top Documentary Films dot com: Exposing the Noble Lie (2010)

Top Documentary Films dot com: The Pharmacratic Inquisition by Jan Irvin (2007)

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  24 comments for “Peace Revolution 047: Slavery is Death / Practical Applications of Irrationality

  1. steve
    January 24, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Wow, what an episode. I have to now read the whole Gulag Archipelago. Seen that book on the shelves so many times. But very interesting, and useful information.

  2. Ja
    January 25, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    You guys TOTALLY ROCK!!! These recent pods have raised the alternative media bar waaaaay up there…this is the stuff that people need to hear.. You guys, Gatto, Quigley, Epperson, Sutton, (and all the other “revealers” I’ve forgotten or haven’t discovered yet) are our hope.. With the net taking the lid off the flea-training jar we live in exciting times indeed. Now for all of us on this side of the media to copy and paste and spread these ideas EVERYWHERE.. sincere thanks and best wishes to you all.

  3. Earl
    January 26, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Thank you again for the presentations. What impressed me from the Gulag reading was that the underlying process and mentality has striking similarities to the traits of ‘tiptoe totalitarianism’ we see today in Amerika.

    • Pat
      February 4, 2012 at 8:52 pm

      Agreed. I found myself bouncing between fear of the future, deep sadness for the past and despair that most people will never know what hit them.

  4. Rob
    January 28, 2012 at 6:01 am

    Great stuff, but why the Ayn Rand tripe… I’m sorry but its tripe

    • Jan Irvin
      January 29, 2012 at 7:15 pm

      You take things out of context. Are you saying that every single idea she ever had is tripe? Based on what fallacy do you make this claim? Have you even studied her work? No one who’s ever read her work would make such a statement. If you’re going to make such broad brushed statements, then the onus of proof is on you to define what is and how it is tripe.

      But here we study the trivium and critical thinking and how to take what’s of value in someone’s work while tossing what’s not.

      Such sweeping generalizations that aren’t pointed at very specific philosophies and ideas, of which there were many, is what is tripe.

      • Joe
        January 30, 2012 at 10:54 am

        Ayn Rand, You reap what you sow. Her seed reaped the RAND CORP.

        • Jan Irvin
          January 30, 2012 at 11:06 am

          So you believe that the Rand Corp. And Ayn Rand are related? What evidence to you have of that, other than similarity of name? If you’re going to throw out guilt by association, you’d better back it.

          • Joe
            January 30, 2012 at 1:14 pm

            Looks like I jump the gun on that one. My bad lol
            “Project RAND RAND was set up in 1946 by the United States Army Air Forces as Project RAND,[12] under contract to the Douglas Aircraft Company, and in May 1946 they released the Preliminary Design of an Experimental World-Circling Spaceship. In May 1948, Project RAND was separated from Douglas and became an independent non-profit organization. Initial capital for the split came from the Ford Foundation.”

            Ayn RAND

            She first achieved fame in 1943 with her novel The Fountainhead, which in 1957 was followed by her best-known work, the philosophical novel Atlas Shrugged.

          • Joe
            January 30, 2012 at 1:18 pm

            “Critics of Social Security and Medicare frequently invoke the words and ideals of author and philosopher Ayn Rand, one of the fiercest critics of federal insurance programs. But a little-known fact is that Ayn Rand herself collected Social Security. She may also have received Medicare benefits.

            An interview recently surfaced that was conducted in 1998 by the Ayn Rand Institute with a social worker who says she helped Rand and her husband, Frank O’Connor, sign up for Social Security and Medicare in 1974.

            Federal records obtained through a Freedom of Information act request confirm the Social Security benefits.”
            http://firedoglake.com

          • Joe
            January 30, 2012 at 1:19 pm

            “There can be no compromise on basic principles. There can be no compromise on moral issues. There can be no compromise on matters of knowledge, of truth, of rational conviction.”
            Ayn Rand.
            Lol funny stuff.

          • Joe
            January 30, 2012 at 1:30 pm

            But then again Rand is not her real name.
            Maybe there is a connection. :)

          • Jan Irvin
            January 30, 2012 at 1:34 pm

            Joe, around here we use critical thinking, point by point breakdown, using someone’s research where it’s valid, dismissing it where it isn’t. We don’t use sweeping generalizations and poisoning the well fallacies to come to conclusions here. Learn some logic and study the trivium and learn to use each person’s research on a point by point basis. If someone is wrong in one place, the rational, intelligent person doesn’t think that everything they ever did, without even study, is wrong. How many good quotes did she have? You sure don’t post up anything from when she went after Skinner, famous for his pigeons and rats in his box and applying that to humans. She was staunchly against mind control and other such manipulations, but you cherry pick what you wish. We’ve discussed extensively in our many shows how you can learn to understand her philosophy and take what’s valid and see how she came to false conclusions. You’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater, which is more irrational than anything you accuse Rand of. At least you retracted the stupid Rand Corp thing.

          • Jan Irvin
            January 30, 2012 at 1:57 pm

            Yeah, I think Rand is a type writer. Now you’re arguing the arbitrary, which is automatically dismissed. The onus of proof is on you. Please stop wasting my time with these fallacies.

          • Joe
            January 30, 2012 at 2:19 pm

            I’m sorry, but I got a bad taste of Ayn after watching a interview
            where I thought she was going to grow horns and fangs when asked about Arabs and how she would have them all exterminated. Seams
            this video has bean scrubbed from the web. this edited clip is all
            I can find of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU
            You are absolutely right about not “throwing the baby out with the bathwater” But I’m not aware of any scientific data she worked on
            that can be studied on it’s own merits. All she had was her thoughts and her mind was definitely poisoned by hate and fear. IMHO

          • Jan Irvin
            January 30, 2012 at 2:38 pm

            Yes, we get her issues. She commonly, as you, put her logic before her grammar, so you two share something in common.

            That doesn’t mean that every word she wrote was wrong. You’re only cutting yourself short from things you could be learning, and cutting everyone else short by wasting my time with your fallacies.

            Again, stop. If you continue to sling fallacies I’ll ban you.

            Fallacy: Latin, fallare – to lie.

          • Joe
            January 30, 2012 at 3:42 pm

            TAP! TAP! TAP! That’s me tapping out. :)
            Sorry if I came across as combative. Your right, this is not the place for me to get on a soup box.
            Gnostic Media is one of my main sources of knowledge
            these days and I appreciate all the work you put into it.
            Peace.

  5. January 30, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Solzhenitsyn’s book makes me want to move.

    Indeed it’s a great point to know that most people will accept everything if introduced in the right way, habituated at the right pace.

    Since Richard, Jan and their PR revolution friend have spend such a great weekend with John Taylor Gatto, Maybe a similar gig with Alan Watt is in the cards?

    Thank you Jan and others for making this available to even people who are just getting by. (The New American dream according to Obama)

    Thank you very much!

    Kars

  6. Al gomas
    February 5, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    Thank you for another great podcast! I do have to question your growing affiliation with Alex Jones though. I see him as more of a show-biz personality and more interested in promoting himself by sensationalizing events. In other words, a blowhard who could just as easily shout at you to buy late nite “as seen on TV” crap. Please tell me you have used the trivium to vet Jones. I fear the association with him may one day diminish the otherwise solid work you do.
    I also would like to see you reach out to Alan Watt. Tragedy &Hope and Cutting Through the Matrix are my main sources for news and history.

    • Jan Irvin
      February 5, 2012 at 7:41 pm

      I have to question your use of logical fallacies, such as killing the messenger, poisoning the well, and not basing information (or refutation) on a case by case, point by point basis, checking its own veracity, when we constantly teach critical thinking here and how to judge information on its own merit without sweeping fallacies and idiotic statements such as yours. If you were using the trivium at all, you wouldn’t have made this post. I fear the idiotic comments you’ve made here may otherwise diminish your ability to think critically and apply the trivium. I hope I’m wrong. Comments like yours make me feel that it’s all been for not, and we haven’t made a single inch of progress in teaching people how to think. Unbelievable. Thanks for nothing.

  7. Jan Irvin
    February 6, 2012 at 9:29 am

    As I already said, you have to go on a case by case, point by point, break down of Jones’s work or anyone else’s. I don’t care what vitrol you have for him, or anyone else who wants to also make sweeping generalizations about Ayn Rand or anyone else. If you can’t go on a per case basis, then please don’t comment on it. Your attitude of killing the messenger muddies the water and does nothing to clarify it. Fallacies are lies, no matter how you justify them. Not interested in Having Watt on my show now.

  8. Al gomas
    February 6, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Did you listen to his “message”? Your dismissal of my legitimate concerns about Jones seems out of keeping with the goal of seeking truth. I attempted to engage you with a “per case basis” example as you requested but instead of calm discussion, you respond with an attack. Presumably, you have already looked at his record on a per case basis. Surely you have come across similar examples of his demagogic rhetoric. How can you not be alarmed?
    I do not have any vitriol for Jones. I do believe that his style discredits the message and that the effect it has is to paint all of us who question authority as delusional nut cases. The big question is if that is his intent.
    If you have info that will allay my doubts about Jones, please share.
    Or you can just “tombstone” me as happened long ago at democratic underground when I asked “are there no psychiatrists in Israel” in response to a discussion of IDF atrocities. Or at antiwar.com when I tried to engage Scot Horton on the topic of 911.
    It pains me to be in conflict with my teacher but I feel compelled to speak when I perceive an error in the lesson.

  9. Jan Irvin
    February 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Al, did you read my replies addressing specifically your heavy use of fallacies to justify your position? Here we use and teach logic and the trivium (see menu on left, trivium study).

    You’re not attempting to engage me on a case by case basis, but you’re making sweeping generalizations about all things Jones. This is called poisoning the well and killing the messenger, as I’ve already repeated and care not to repeat again.

    If you’d care to provide the onus of proof of EXACTLY how THIS particular clip used of Jones is inaccurate, then maybe you’d have a case. But you’ve provided nothing but your vitriol towards Jones.

    Coming across similar examples of his demagogic rhetoric has nothing to do with his message in this podcast, which was clear and concise. If you have particular, point by point issues with this particular episode, then post them up with citations.

    Yes, I’m very alarmed at your persistent use of fallacies and your refusal to see them!

    Again, if you want to kill the messenger over “style” while not hearing the message, getting hung up on semantics, then that’s your prerogative, but keep your unbacked claims off my site.

    Your ad hominem of calling him a nut case only shows that you need to resort to more fallacies to justify your position and are not thinking critically on a case by case, point by point, basis. Is everything that Jones has ever said a lie? Of course not, so get over yourself.

    I do have info that would allay your doubts – it’s called the study of logic and the trivium and not using fallacies. There’s ample material here for you to study logic, the trivium and fallacies and not use fallacies here to justify your BS.

    It’s in no way “tombstoning” you – but rather simple logic as has already been explained clearly to you – repeatedly.

    The only error here is for you to use red herrings about antiwar.com, psychiatrists, etc, when this episode is about SLAVERY. See if you can stay on topic and on point and off your use of fallacies. You’ve been warned.

  10. Jan Irvin
    February 9, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Hi Al, it seems you’re going to use every fallacy to justify your position, rather than seeing the very fallacies you’ve used right before your eyes. The information is here for you to learn about them and not use them. I’ve warned you. And now you’re going to use the same fallacies again, dress, military style, et al, all fallacies, to support your claims. Your banned.

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